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? if there's one thing the sequester does, it cuts defense spending, something you would never be able to do. >> i think progressives should do nothing. steve schmidt, john mccain's campaign manager said if mitt romney lost the election, there would be civil war within the republican party. this is what we are seeing now. what was so weird about the last episode is this caucus was in a room which was virtually like fantasyland. they were arguing over a proposal that made no sense and that was going nowhere. it had -- they are like tearing each other apart over it. this is a party that not only i love your line where you said they weren't able to achieve partisanship. this is a party that is no longer capable of governing. >> right. >> you can't let them be part of the process if they are going to behave like that. >> that's the point. if they can't pass a bill that exempted $999,999 of increases, what can they do? >> i think it saved obama from himself. the deal he was offering to bear, to raise taxes on people making $400,000 was a really bad one, right? now we get to come back to a new con
, $110 billion in automatic spending cuts to defense and other domestic programs. that's going kick in, as well. 30 million more americans will be hit by the amt, the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case kno
. after they won the supreme court case identifying a right to own a gun in your home for self-defense, the question i think for them was well, what do we do now. do you fold up a $240 million a year organization? does wayne lapierre give up his $1.4 million a year salary? no. they have methodically gone from state legislature to state legislature chipping away at modest restrictions that most nra members support. so he has a huge problem, i think, based on that bizarre press conference, with the membership of the nra which is quite reasonable. >> ari, i want to get your reaction to the press conference the other day but as an attorney, to sort of talk about that turn because it is sort of a unique kind of feature of the idea of the constitution that you have this unique, you know, the individual right to bear arms. because historically, there's been lots of gun legislation. i was reading about sort of even the battle at the ok corral and these other fights in the wyatt earp days when you had to check your gun in at the sheriff's office. that was perfectly reasonable and it was sort of
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